Your ideas for Port Adelaide

06 Feb 2012

Port Adelaide community consultation.  23 January 2012.

 

The discussion forum has closed as the community engagement process on the future of Port Adelaide has moved to its next stage. You can now view the proposals for the future of the Port and have your say at the new consultation website: www.ourport.sa.gov.au 

At the community consultation on 23 January 2012, Premier Jay Weatherill invited people to have their say about the future of Port Adelaide.  People with a passion for the Port were asked to think about their big ideas for the area and two questions were asked: 

  1. A new master plan for the Port will be created. What is the most important thing to you?
  2. How would you like the community to be engaged?

Participants were then asked to write down their ideas to share with others.  All these ideas have been divided into  categories and provided below for your review.  

What do you think about these ideas?  Do they capture your vision for the Port or do you want to say more?  If you have new ideas or more to say, let us know by posting in the blog below.  

On the night of the consultation some of the questions from the floor were unable to be answered due to time constraints.  These are now provided below by the Premier, you can let him know what you think by commenting on his answers.  

79 Comments

  • Dan Nottle
    almost 2 years ago

    I thought it was a great day for the Port and certainly exciting prospects for the future.

    I love the green open spaces and the bike path will be great, ensuring we have toilet amenities and dog friendly areas ie dog bags made available this will be a hit.

    I hope to see further vibrancy added by the transfer of some public service facilities to the Port. This will immediatley enliven the area and give a boost to those businesses who have done 'the hard yards' in the port and established a loyal clientele of custom.

    One drawback only from the design - the proposed apartments at Mercantile dock - these should be limited to one or two levels only with restaurants and the like on ground floor for the strip. the apartments will be boutque above and would fit better with the overall layout of the precinct.

    Good luck with a speedy implementation of the first stages!

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Dan, thanks very much for your comments, we're really glad you enjoyed the open day and have taken the time to get in touch and give us your feedback. The new Port Adelaide consultation website has just been established and you can see all of the plans for the Port and have your say at: http://www.ourport.sa.gov.au/

  • phil sweeney
    almost 2 years ago

    Really impressed today by not only the presentation, but also the turn-out. There were heaps of people eager to put their thoughts forward. I left there feeling happy and hopeful. Its a beautiful area, ripe for scrubbing up and promoting as not only a great place to live but also a lovely place to visit for tourists. Its just needed to right people with authority, to get together with the right people from the commercial world. There is potential for all parties to be winners here!

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Phil, thanks for your comment, we're glad you enjoyed the open day and that you're positive about the Port's future. If you want to see an overview of the Plan's presented at the open day, you can visit and continue to have your say at: http://www.ourport.sa.gov.au/

  • Ashleigh Coombs
    almost 2 years ago

    Turn the whole area into a pedestrian precinct (similar to Rundle Mall). Come up with a traffic management plan that better suits trading behaviours - day and night, casual, and on foot - meeting able and disable needs - culturally appropriate. Pedestrian spaces need to be interconnect with diverse activities, an exchange gateway, covering a large area and being secure. Light rail could compliment this ambience. The water/land edges will be the most productive. Shade and wind protection is essential.

    Ashleigh Coombs
    almost 2 years ago

    ... and it needs to be Wifi enabled.

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Thanks for your comments Ashleigh... you can check out the plans for the Port at our new consultation site: http://www.ourport.sa.gov.au/ Here you can also leave your thoughts and ideas on what is being proposed.

  • Karen Bradbury
    almost 2 years ago

    university campus needed in the port to bring in overseas students and young people generally. this increases vibrancy, demand for rental and retail businesses. tourism is fine but very cotningent on disposable income, which you can't always count on. marine biology students would flock to our unique port, mangroves and seaside. overseas students would love the opportunity to live and study near dolphins!!!

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Karen, thanks for your comments. We appreciate you taking the time to tell us what you think about the Port's future.

  • mark downey
    almost 2 years ago

    I have just seen a couple of images showing possible port River front development plans. One BIG negative I noticed immediately was the siting of an open car park hard up against the waterfront. What a ridiculous use of such valuable real estate - better used for public plaza or restaurant cafe space. Cars can't enjoy such a wonderful views and outlooks!

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Thanks for your views Mark. We'll take your comments on board. You can see the plans in detail at our new consultation site: http://www.ourport.sa.gov.au/

  • Lillian Shai
    almost 2 years ago

    What about a popeye ride from the heart of the Port to Semaphore (Glanvile station)?

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Thanks for your comments Lillian, we'll take them on board. For the latest plans of what's proposed at the Port, you can visit our new consultation site: http://www.ourport.sa.gov.au/

  • Ralph Tonkin
    almost 2 years ago

    Who do We speak to about a FACEBOOK page for PORT HARBOURLIFE 2013 ... Tell Us what You can do to help breathe fresh air back into Our sails...

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Hi Ralph, thanks for your comment. Facebook is available to everyone in the public to create their own page. If you would like to create a page for this event it is up to you - go for it :)

    Cheers,

    David.

    Ralph Tonkin
    almost 2 years ago

    Will do, cheers David :)

  • Ralph Tonkin
    almost 2 years ago

    BEACH BIKE BROWSE

    Inner Harbour is perfect place to spend an hour or three before or after work...

    A bike / hike loop beside the water at sunrise / sunset would certainly attract a healthy crowd... similar to that attracted to the ultra successful Waterfall Gully to Mt Lofty loop.

    Add in a safe & protected beach in front of the Birkenhead Tavern & an array of pop up street kitchens and trinket traders along the way and enjoy the vibrancy ... all for minimal outlay :)

    BEACH BIKE HIKE GRAZE BROWSE

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    HI Ralph, a shared walking/cycling path is being investigated as part of the early actions of Master Planning in the Port. If you are interested in hearing more about these initiatives, please come along to the Open Day on 7 October 2012. Venue and times will be confirmed soon.

    Cheers,

    David.

  • Jason Hindes
    almost 2 years ago

    Really to make the train line electrified the train lobby obviously understands the conflict the tram will bring and has planned to get in first it’s always about controlling the funding, do you really think any more people will take the train if it’s electric
    The line has 23 boom gates from the city how much traffic does that stop day in day out how much maintenance plus pedestrian crossings require repair
    The huge amount of real estate taken up by the track, reclaims it for housing or park , bike and walk ways, not many people actually get on at outer harbour now as no one lives around there
    Better to service outer harbour with buses and circle to a tram lick up at semi road
    The train is a heavy transport & distance idea there too big and heavy unnecessary high platforms hidden in the back streets hard for many to get to let alone consider
    The tram can run on city streets share terminals with buses be in the middle of the road where you want to be when you get of ,not some scary back street station or over pass
    There’s no benefit for the area to upgrade the train ,the tram on the other hand will revive the main streets introduce commuters to something new easy clean interesting to visitors photographic ally
    If you want a train see one at the railway museum, get there on the tram !
    Ps this site is so Not user friendly

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Hi Jason, thanks for your comments. If you have specific feedback about the usability of the site, please drop us an email: saplan@sa.gov.au

  • Byron Bartlett
    almost 2 years ago

    Free access to all the Museums in the Port

  • Jillian Pyle
    almost 2 years ago

    The trameline to Outer Harbour including Port Adelaide and a spur to Semaphore must be reinstated in the Government's transportation plan for the western suburbs immediately. In 2012 Semaphore still does not have direct public transport to the city. As a Semaphore resident I have to ask why millions have been spent and continue to be spent on Port Adelaide yet nothing has been spent on Semaphore? A tram to Port Adelaide and Semaphore would bring thousands of visitors to both locations and provide Semaphore residents with clean direct transportation to Adelaide.

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Thanks for your comment Jillian, it will be passed onto the Port Adelaide Steering Committee who have asked to be kept abreast of all ideas and opinions on this site.
    Regards,
    David.

  • Fiona McConchie
    almost 2 years ago

    To the Port Adelaide Steering Committee. I am writing at the request of the Port of Adelaide Branch of the National Trust (PoANT) Committee.
    We welcome the fresh approach to planning for the future of Port Adelaide and appreciate this chance to comment on its direction.
    We also welcome the intention to have a public design competition. The PoANT Committee would like to know the intended timeframe for this, understanding that the brief needs to be written first.
    Also can you say how widely this competition is to be advertised - ie can we expect international participation?

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Hi Fiona, thanks for your response.

    Future projects to effect the renewal of Port Adelaide are still being discussed by the Port Adelaide Renewal Steering Committee. The Committee will help to determine which projects will deliver the best possible outcomes for the community.

    Minister for Housing and Urban Development, Patrick Conlon MP appointed the Committee to provide advice to the Government on renewal and master planning of the Inner Port and a representative from the City of Port Adelaide Enfield provides a link to local government in this process.

    A representative from the Port Adelaide Renewal Project team will be attending the PoANT AGM on 30 August 2012.

    Cheers,
    David.

  • Matthias Tomczak
    about 2 years ago

    Not upgrading Diamond Conrer and spending the $7.9m on several smaller projects is the right way to go, but I think the proposed pedestrian and bike loop around the Port should be extended. We regularly walk along the west side of the canal area and are frustrated by not being able to cross the railway line. There should either be a pedestrian underpath to allow people to reach the Bower Road bridge, or a pedestrian bridge should be added to the railway bridge to provide a shorter loop that still include the only remaining mangrove area in the Port. There is some nice parkland between Bower Road and the railway bridge that is totally underused and could be included in the loop if an underpath is built under the railway line.

  • Matthias Tomczak
    about 2 years ago

    Not upgrading Diamond Conrer and spending the $7.9m on several smaller projects is the right way to go, but I think the proposed pedestrian and bike loop around the Port should be extended. We regularly walk along the west side of the canal area and are frustrated by not being able to cross the railway line. There should either be a pedestrian underpath to allow people to reach the Bower Road bridge, or a pedestrian bridge should be added to the railway bridge to provide a shorter loop that still include the only remaining mangrove area in the Port. There is some nice parkland between Bower Road and the railway bridge that is totally underused and could be included in the loop if an underpath is built under the railway line.

    YourSAy Official
    almost 2 years ago

    Hi Matthias, thanks for your email, we'll be passing your views onto the Port Adelaide Renewal Steering Committee.
    Cheers,
    David.

  • Nicole Reynolds
    about 2 years ago

    It's great to have community consultation, especially if comments/thoughts are heeded by those in power. It's very concerning that the last comment on here was four months ago! If the government is serious about consultation they need to keep reminding people to comment and get involved. Since the tram extension was scrapped people, once again, feel like all this consultation has been a hollow promise. Claims of listening to residents' concerns and being prepared to make immediate improvements are hollow when announcements like that are made. I know the economic outlook isn't great but many other projects are going ahead that could have been delayed without ruining a whole area. Labour scraped in at the Port Adelaide by-election with people voting in the hope they'd show what they really could do before the next election. So far, lots of talk but very little commitment. Please, I implore you to do something bold for the Port,and do it now!

  • Thomas Sheraton
    over 2 years ago

    The maritime history is great but the water its self is key . build an underwater viewing tunnel from “fletchers slip museum “ back across the river to Harts mill , how crazy imaginative would that be for visitors, actually see beneath the port just like the average aquarium tunnel but in the actual harbour the surprising viewing possibilities are endless and unknown .Imagine walking under a section of the Adelaide clipper ship keel ,around twenty feet below the surface ,light from above shadows of fish ,displays setup by the museum, a fish nursery could be cultivated by experts in the Subject ,water taxis cross above, the odd dolphin swims by (priceless) .100 yards and you emerge at hart’s mill and travel on .
    such a structure is not that big a deal today the harbour is small secure from weather ,relatively shallow for construction, the technology is well established. built it in the dock next to fletchers slip float it into place and dropped on the sea floor ,pump out the sea water start thinking big !
    We can’t expect to bring hundreds/thousands of people here to the water’s edge and then build such assets (if we build it they will come) not my words!
    think bigger

  • Jason Hindes
    over 2 years ago

    The tram is without a doubt , the most important development in the ports recent history forget river crossings to get traffic out! let’s get the people to come in via a clean easy safe transport system .the tram is great so many other city’s have trams and they are extended not pulled out ,look at Melbourne , it even has a dining car in service imagine a dining car going beach to port and beyond to semi road . rejuvenate the centre of ” the port of Adelaide” with new tram line extension which must travel down the main streets ( not wimp out on existing hidden train lines )down port road and commercial to the water ( just like Glenelg ) then turn west on saint Vincent over the Jurvois bridge to semi another great spectacle .make black diamond corner a spectacle ,trams every 20 minutes to the city and back more students would consider living in those empty apartments overlooking the water .the tram means remove the bus stops in front of retail ,put them in the middle of the road ,make this transport easier than the car by putting parking areas along port road in leafy small groups to entice less cars in the port
    We want the people back in the main streets they have to get of the tram in the main streets so it’s all good, a couple of platforms in both streets and the light house servicing the buses to .
    Show the whole of Adelaide that the port is significant by making major investment in its structure and future for all ,not just the place for a football team (

    Jason Hindes
    over 2 years ago

    Question Where will the tram be installed

    Thomas Sheraton
    over 2 years ago

    I to wouild like to ask the location of the tram Mr Weatherill

    Thomas Sheraton
    over 2 years ago

    I to wouild like to ask the location of the tram Mr Weatherill

    YourSAy Official
    over 2 years ago

    Hi there,

    Thanks for your inquiries about the tram. These issues will be addressed as part of the upcoming community engagement process for the master planning process. We hope that you are able to participate in these events and we will be forwarding more information about when they will be occurring and how you can get involved over coming months and weeks

    Kind regards,

    David.

    YourSAy Official
    over 2 years ago

    Hi there,

    Thanks for your inquiries about the tram. These issues will be addressed as part of the upcoming community engagement process for the master planning process. We hope that you are able to participate in these events and we will be forwarding more information about when they will be occurring and how you can get involved over coming months and weeks

    Kind regards,

    David.

  • Thomas Sheraton
    over 2 years ago

    The harbour is the key asset that is overlooked it backs onto the port but we should consider it to be the centre, introduce people to the water on both sides of the harbour . Install fast on of jetties for a small group of water taxis small nimble boats to rotate people around to explore everything , get of the tram at the port go to the maritime museum be guided to the fletcher slip annex by staff with a pre payed ticket stub for a short boat transfer around several water platforms in the harbour under the birk bridge . Put a stop at harts mill across at new port restaurant along to fletcher slip under the bridge to cruickshank corner along to the east end development for lunch time office staff and back to the light house . a tram and water taxis will also encourage people to leave their cars at home or in satellite car parks more parking on the north bank and people will cross by water taxi into the port and walk around.
    Water activity like this will keep the harbour alive always.
    A working harbour means the wrong kind of traffic for the image of port Adelaide , tall ships visiting cruise boats , yachts all good but working barges floating workshops dredges just need to stay outside.
    More small boat moorings encourage leisure boats to use the centre of the river perhaps west of the Birk Bridge to avoid dolphin boats which are great to see, the gulf has a big boating present sailing for one ,you can’t imagine how many dolphins are in the gulf it is staggering to

  • Catherine McMahon
    over 2 years ago

    It’s great news that we’ll have the Port Renewal Project, along the lines of Renewal Newcastle which I’ve heard from my sister adds activity and colour to Newcastle’s inner city area – have seen it looking very bleak with shop closures. Thanks Premier for taking this initiative, following on from the positive developments of protecting more of Torrens Island and the architectural design competition for the Harts Milling Buildings.
    Let’s hope that more of the great ideas from the community, including from the workshops held for the Port-Enfield Council and the State Government’s planning study for the Port’s wharf precinct and Cruickshank’s Corner progressively come to fruition.
    It would be great to have integrated open space planning too; it was very hard to sensibly influence planning of community spaces, boardwalks and outdoor facilities while planning was tied to Newport’s staged release.

  • Jennyifer Louise Allen
    over 2 years ago

    I agree with Thomas that we need more boardwalks and how about some right to the water for the disabled sector? I can't walk on sand so can never get down to the water. I went to a Disability workshop yesterday and there was good ideas that came out of that like more disabled parks and better socially inclusive attitudes which are in keeping with the National Disability strategy? I think we need a dedicated group that meets at council similar to the Aboriginal Advisory group?
    Apparently at Glenelg they have special disability accessable bubbles that actually go onto the water.....great idea and why not down here?

    Dog parks also are a sensible move. Keep Hart's Mill for the community, either arts, or an Aboriginal community/interpretive centre but it must remain in the hands of local people no matter what it's use.

    Port Festival should be annually.

    Look after this unique wetland environment with cleaning the Port River an imperative...get rid of speedboats on the river as they scare and kill the dolphins. We have a totally unique wetland environment down here and we should be cleaning up the river, getting rid of heavy industry and knocking Newport Quays down and bringing back Kingsley Haskett to Jenkins Street.

    Part of being progressive is also about admitting when you get it wrong. LMC got it wrong BADLY. Why not play up the natural environment and listen to the locals and see it thrive and also bring in tourists who see us as setting an example to rest of world?

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