What are your thoughts on the draft Forestry Regulations?

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This online engagement was hosted on YourSAy from 3 August to 30 August 2020. Find out more about the consultation process. Below is a record of the engagement.

 

We want to hear your feedback on the draft Forestry Regulations.

Read the Forestry Act 1950 and the proposed amendments to the regulations to inform your feedback.

Let us know what you think by commenting below.

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Daniel Wade

04 Aug 2020

Happy to pay slightly more for Fossicking permit.
Drones should be allowed to be used without permit.

Meg Anderson

04 Aug 2020

How come cave divers didn’t get to have a say about bringing in fees to dive at Forestry SA sites? We are members of the general public too. Or do dog walkers and horse riders have more rights than us?

Government Agency

Forest Regulations Team > Meg Anderson

14 Aug 2020

Hi Meg, thanks for your feedback. ForestrySA is committed to the development of recreational opportunities in its forests and the economic contribution this makes to South Australia’s regions. For the purposes of the Forestry Regulations, cave diving is not a regulated activity and fees can be determined at Forestry SA's discretion. ForestrySA consulted extensively with the relevant cave diving bodies when developing the cave diving fee structure. The new fee structure brings ForestrySA in line with other government and non-government organisations which charge for diving and use revenue to ensure safety, conservation and site improvements. Thank you.

Danielle Bailey

04 Aug 2020

I'm in favour of dogs being on leads. I have special needs children who love forest walks but are terrified of dogs. It causes a high level of stress to my children when dogs come running up to them. Thankfully we have not ever come across an aggressive dog, but a dog could become unexpectedly aggressive when it senses fear.

Zachary Niemann > Danielle Bailey

08 Aug 2020

How about going to any of the hundreds of amazing national parks, Forrest's, reserves etc. that all have bans on dogs already? Why do you want everyone with dogs to suffer when you already have so many options that we don't?

Sarah Macdonald > Danielle Bailey

10 Aug 2020

Yep, too many irresponsible dog owners. I've seen people terrified by dogs running up to them, harm done to wildlife and hate finding dog-do left behind, bagged or not.

Kate Holbrook

04 Aug 2020

It would be a terrible shame to enforce having dogs on leads at all times on trails within Forest Reserves. There are so few off-lead areas to exercise your dog in Adelaide and they are continually decreasing. This seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to a vocal minority. If people aren't comfortable with dogs off-lead, perhaps they can go to one of the hundreds of places were dogs must be on the lead instead.

Government Agency

ForestrySA

04 Aug 2020

Thank you everyone for your contribution to the online discussion on the draft Forestry Regulations.

Your feedback is important to us and will help inform updates to the existing regulations. The project team will review all suggestions submitted and provide an update on the ForestrySA website once the survey has closed for comment.

All feedback and concerns will be considered while balancing the needs of our various stakeholders, as much as practically possible.

Kind regards

Draft Forestry Regulations Project Team

Lucy Maynard

04 Aug 2020

Firstly thank you for our use of forested, I horse ride and dog walk and am in the kuitpo and surrounding forests almost daily. Whilst I understand during Covid there has been a significant increase to visitors I think it is a shame to enforce dogs on leads, this can be a temporary measure with signage during high use periods but would be ideal if this could be relaxed again during quieter periods. Dogs should be under either direct control or if not trained appropriately on lead in forest I agree. Please reconsider there are so few off leash walking spots now. I am very happy to pay more for horseriding permit...my best value investment of the year. Thx again. Lucy

Delwyn Bennett

04 Aug 2020

I have always been happy to pay to ride my horse in the forrest. I think this should apply to bike riders as well. This would allow for sinage regarding safe riding of bikes around other forrest users. There are some bike only areas as well so surely this should be a paid permit too.

Dogs out with bike riders or horses are one of the best features of the forrest. These dogs can't be leashed. There should be enforcement of penalties for badly behaved dog owners. Other areas just require under effective control.

Pauline Williams

04 Aug 2020

Dogs on leads in designated camping areas shared with others might be a good idea but should not be enforced on rails. It's dangerous to lead a dog from a horse.
Horse riders pay for a permit to use the forest, why not bike riders? They should also pay for a permit to use the forest. They should also be given rules required when approaching a horse rider (same rules as it is for vehicles approaching a horse).

Pam Brookman

03 Aug 2020

I am a horse rider who rides in Kuitpo Forest several times a week and takes my dog with me and have done so with other dogs I have owned since the 1980's and have had no issues with them. All my dogs have been very trained and run beside my horse. It is not safe for me to have my dog on a lead and this would be a similar situation for bike riders who wish to exercise their dogs at a faster pace than just walking with them.
I have not had an issue with other loose dogs until this year when Covid hit and everyman and his untrained dogs came to the forest. I feel very strongly that the current regulation of having them under your care and control is sufficient and fines imposed when that is shown not to be the case. I feel signage saying something like "Ýour dog must be on a lead in campgrounds and in other areas if it is not trained to stay next to you".
I feel bike riders should also pay for a permit to use the forest and that permit should include information on how to share the trails and safely pass horse riders and walkers so all users have a satisfactory recreation experience. The growing number of mountain bikes and e bikes is also starting to cause a problem. The speed these travel and the riders tunnel vision have led to many accidents and near misses when they encounter horse riders. Mountain bikes have already been given exclusive access to a section of forest that was regularly used by horse riders, but do not appear to be content with that. Quite a few have been very rude to me when asked to slow down and pass wide and slow so both they and I stay safe. On quite a few occaissions they have said well just don't come up on the weekends when we are here!
I am a very strong supporter of multi use trails, and the forest lends itself to that with its wide tracks, but it does need more information for some users how to safely share the trail.
Horse riding permits have been required for quite some time now, but after the initial installation of stepovers and some horse yards early on, there has been no more facilities provided. Walkers and cyclists also get the benefit of the stepovers for free.
The forests are becoming more and more popular for horse riders as it is a vehicle free area to ride but they do need more float parking areas. The float parking area on Razorback road is a major problem as it is very narrow and as a lot of general traffic goes through it, this causes problems for horses tied to the floats. Its entrance/exits are also on corners which is quite dangerous when pulling out slowly with a float on.

Margot Pidgeon

03 Aug 2020

I do not understand the need for horseriders to pay fees and get permit in forest when bike riders, walkers dont have to. The fees for horse riders appears to go towards infrastructure for walkers and bike riders not the horse riders.
Shoulnt everyone gave to get a permit, fair is fair
An explanation of this would be good. Forests and National Parks are suppise to be everyone to enjoy
Rules should be in accordance with this and accommodating everyone.

Michelle Wheaton

03 Aug 2020

I am an annual permit holder and ride horses in the forest regularly. Every time I am out there I come across multiple lots of bike riders.
The explanation for the horse permit fees is to provide additional infrastructure like step overs. But these are used by bike riders and walkers too and yet they don’t require a permit. Another explanation was to cover administration but isn’t that work required because of the permit system?
Seems like horse riders are being discriminated against.

Loren Madsen

03 Aug 2020

I feel that bike riders should also be required to purchase a permit to ride in the forest. It doesn’t seem fair that horse riders require one, but bike riders do not.
Bike riders who are children should be under responsible adult supervision, as should child horse riders.
I would also like to see designated spaces for car and horse float parking.
I agree that dogs should be on a lead when in shared spaces.

Patricia Ann

03 Aug 2020

By the way motor bikes are accessing forests via the goldfields car park

Patricia Ann

03 Aug 2020

There needs to be allowances made for horse riders or bike riders to be able to have their dogs by their side
It is not possible to lead a dog safely from a bike or horse
It is unfair if bike riders or horse riders can not exercise their dog/s while riding I feel
I would live to see tracks widened through the goldfields at Jupiter creek so bikes, horses gold seekers and so on can pass more safely please.
At certain spots along the heysen trail through the Jupiter creek goldfields there are fences not suitable as kangaroos break legs getting through them .. the mt bold reservoir boundary fence is one of these. The forest and goldfields is used regularly by many hikers gold diggers bike riders horse riders and families who all seem to get on well. I’ve never ever seen any dog problems.

Polly Bounds

03 Aug 2020

No link to the national parks dog rules. Please explain and spell out your dog rules, I do not need to waste more time trying to find links when you clearly should have included a hyperlink. Shame on you.

Government Agency

ForestrySA > Polly Bounds

04 Aug 2020

Hi Polly

Thanks for your feedback. The proposed regulation amendment would require dogs to be maintained on a lead at all times while in a forest reserve, no greater than three metres in length. More detail can be found in the hyperlink provided on the 'Summary of Changes' tab.

Kind regards

Draft Forestry Regulations Project Team

Evelyn Hay

03 Aug 2020

I strongly believe permits should be made mandatory for bike riders as this "would assist in offsetting costs of maintaining the purpose built infrastructure within a forest reserve". Why are bike riders exempt from permits? Horse riders etc are given the above reason for permits and a fee increase!!!!!
I also believe more focus should be given to increasing equine use of forests/ reserves, like the Eastern States and overseas. As equine owners/ permit holders, they should be given greater access and infrastructure to forests and reserves.

Mandy Carapetis

03 Aug 2020

I strongly believe there should be better regulations for Bike riders. While most behave well, there are some riders that don't understand how their riding can upset or scare Horses. This is very dangerous and really needs to be addressed. Perhaps an on line registration, with or without a fee, similar to horse riders, but where they are required as part of the registration to understand how horses can react to bikes and what they should do in the case of a distressed or scared horse. I also believe that quieter type generators should be allowed in camping areas during camping season. It would also be helpful to have access to the gate codes as part of the horse registration fees. Also, there should be better lighting and maintenance for the drop toilets within the parks. Thankyou for your consideration.

Treena Woods

03 Aug 2020

I don't think you have considered the riding of bikes without an adult present. We pay our fees to ride our horses and find alot of kids riding the bikes without an adult present. Causing injury to our kids who are riding horses by not having respect of other uses of the forest. My daughter came off when to kids came down a hill so fast and scared the horses. Lucky my daughter was safe after fall. They just swore at us and made rude gestures. These sorts of things need to be address as well.

Tori Carthy

03 Aug 2020

I would really like to stress the fact that horse owners taking their horses to the forest really need a separate carpark to the bike riders/walkers etc. Time and again I have been at the forest when ignorant people drive extremely fast past our horses tied at the floats. This is extremely dangerous not only for our horses but for the unassuming drivers as well. It's just not reasonable to expect people to be aware that a 500kg animal can take fright quite quickly from people driving too fast/close to them. We need separate carparks for cars and floats and then just for cars. The fact that horse riders are the only group needing to pay for permits to ride in the forest this is not an unreasonable request. It needs to change. Thank you.

Pam Pearce

03 Aug 2020

20 (1-3) Bringing animals into reserves- Whilst i understand that some dog owners may not observe good practice when walking there dogs, i believe that most people who take the opportunity to walk their dogs in a forest reserve a law abiding and responsible dog owners. To penalise all for the irresponsible behaviour of the minority is wrong and unfair. Dog Owners are finding that more and more areas are being shut down. Would it not be better to penalise the owners that have dogs with poor behaviour rather than the dog owners who love there pets, train their dogs and are good doggy citizens. The money invested to monitor the dogs being on lead, i feel, would be better spent monitoring those who dont do the right thing.