Input for the SA Jetties Strategic Plan

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This online engagement was hosted on YourSAy from 27 September to 1 November 2019. Find out more about the consultation process. Below is a record of the engagement.

To help inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan we want to gain a broad understanding of how jetties:

  • Contribute to the economy
  • Benefit the community
  • Are used by local communities, visitors and businesses

How do you use your jetty? Why is it important to you? Let us know by commenting below.

 

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David Cowan

01 Nov 2019

I am a recreational diver who is interested in jetties because of their convenience and because they are very interesting places to dive. SA jetties are well-regarded by divers visiting from elsewhere. I have personally heard high levels of praise from European divers about both Port Noarlunga and Rapid Bay.
FYI, I have completed surveys for the following jetties – Edithburgh, Old Rapid Bay Jetty, New Rapid Bay Jetty, Port Noarlunga, Second Valley, Ardrossan Town Jetty, Port Hughes and Stenhouse Bay.
I have three comments.
Firstly, access to & from the water. While the new jetty (i.e. 2009) at Rapid Bay is the benchmark for access arrangements by divers (and other wishing to enter water) and is referenced in upgrades to other jetties, some other jetties still have unsatisfactory access arrangements, (i.e. very steep stair flights, non-existent balustrades or balustrades that are too low, in-water ladders that are difficult whilst wearing fins). For example, there are standard designs for ladders that can be climb whilst wearing fins.
Secondly, Management of activities. While the use of most jetties is self-organising, some jetties do need attention. Some require separation of recreational uses (i.e. Edithburgh) to avoid anglers and divers getting in each other way. Also, some jetties are very busy (and crowded) at times, i.e. Port Noarlunga during summer, and this situation makes activities as rescuing divers and swimmers more difficult (which I have witnessed on one occasion).
Thirdly, management of the seabed. The following should be considered by DPTI, DEW and PIRSA. Construction work on jetties can damage the seabed (e.g. Edithburgh, 2014). Some dive stores have installed moorings on the seabed at particular jetties for diver training purposes – I think some of these have not been placed in the best spots in respect to the overall use of the site and I would suspect that these may need approval under relevant planning requirements. “Clean-up days” are generally bad news for marine life and may need to be managed under the relevant marine park/aquatic reserve arrangements.

Rob Bergin

01 Nov 2019

With out tourist our economy to the town would suffer

Rob Bergin

01 Nov 2019

Tourism is our life
Walking the jetty
Fishing off the jetty
It’s a huge part of Pt germein
I can remember when it was Damaged not so long ago and there was talk about not repairing
The shock to the town was unbearable

Rob Bergin

01 Nov 2019

Our jetty is our town life
It’s a draw card from all over the state the country and indeed the world
With out it many tourist would not visit spend time spend money
All which is important to the financial input for the town

Mandy Guidera

31 Oct 2019

I have 14 year old twin girls that are always down the jetty with their friends on half sunny days or just a meeting place for friends, well used by their age group

Kevin Hull

31 Oct 2019

I occasionally walk a jetty if my travels take me near one. Perhaps of more interest is that my brother and his wife set themselves the task of walking all the jetties in SA. They have completed the task.
I wonder whether an app might be developed where people set up a challenge so that others might join the challenge - perhaps earning points for each task completed.
The idea of challenge is popular in many current gaming experiences.

Thomas Wende

31 Oct 2019

Have I got a jetty idea for you Port Augusta.... and other jetties too :)
Go have a look at this one in Northern Germany https://goo.gl/maps/F9qE8jGi3yMS1BKx6
(or type "heiligenhafen pier" into Google Maps)
Water play area, sheltered area used for functions (weddings, etc), toilets, multiple levels.
Commercialisation / tourism at its best.

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DPTI Community Relations > Thomas Wende

31 Oct 2019

Hi Thomas,
Thanks that is a very impressive jetty!
We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Maria McCallum

31 Oct 2019

Let’s be honest about the beautiful waterway of Port Augusta- it’s got potential to be seriously earmarked for at least one jetty to offer a great stop for tourists to rest, relax & rave about how great a stop over at the top of Spencer Gulf is!
Outdoor activity around a jetty means children, youth, families & elderly citizens can have somewhere to go to enjoy fishing, swimming, boating, strolling or spectating & thus build relationships together for a healthy community.
Come on Planning team mark ‘jetty for Pt Augusta’ with a pin 📌!

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DPTI Community Relations > Maria McCallum

31 Oct 2019

Hi Maria,
Thank you for your comments about Port Augusta. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Wheeler Wheeler

31 Oct 2019

Just done the survey - I don't think I fit the anticipated demographic, so the results seem a bit odd - I live 50km away but walk to it in 5-10 minutes :) I use 'my' jetty from work rather than home or holiday, but that's not an option.
It makes a great break from the working day. At least once each week, more often when I can get away I spend a lunch break there, people-watching and enjoying the view and fresh air. I'd like to see the community and social side of things built on, our jetties can be a bit... well, sparse when it comes to shelter and seating.
Make it easy for kiosks or food trucks to set up at our busier jetties.
Most importantly though, as others have said, look after these valuable, iconic assets. It's unlikely that we'll build more so, when they're gone, they're probably gone for good and the longer they're left in disrepair, the less likely they are to be economically repairable.

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DPTI Community Relations > Wheeler Wheeler

31 Oct 2019

Good Afternoon,
Thank you for your comments and for your survey response. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

John Koutsoukos

31 Oct 2019

I believe smoking should be banned on all jetties to maintain the ecological balance. Port Noarlunga is a sanctuary so we need to keep it clean.

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DPTI Community Relations > John Koutsoukos

31 Oct 2019

Hi John,
Thank you for your comment. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

David Versteeg

30 Oct 2019

With the geographical location and long history with the tall ships it is beyond belief that there could be a day when there could be a Port Augusta with no jetty's or a warf. There is approx 15,000 cars a day go through Port Augusta with the gulf showing as a highlight. Port Augusta is the the last sea water stop going North South East or West for many hundreds or thousands of kilometers. As part of the business community we are trying to maintain our connection with our waterway and our proud history including the warf and jetty. Being a keen fisherman there is nowhere to take the grand kids to go crabbing etc if you do not have a boat.

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DPTI Community Relations > David Versteeg

31 Oct 2019

Hi David,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Matthew Kowal

29 Oct 2019

Adrossan jetty. Always thought it would be great for tourism if you could design the Jetty so you could snorkel directly under all the way with out disturbing the fishing people fishing above. Have snorkel under and it’s fantastic watching the marine life but the cross beams are annoying to get around.

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DPTI Community Relations > Matthew Kowal

31 Oct 2019

Hi Matthew,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Rick Moore

28 Oct 2019

I value the Robe jetty. It has value for recreation (a significant factor in local economic well-being). Recreational fishing, sightseeing, outdoor family activity & visitors are currently using the Robe jetty . It has heritage value - its something from the past which is worth retaining. Ever sat on a jetty, or leant on the rail, relaxed and pondered things ?? - if you have visited a jetty its highly likely you have done this. Let's retain this feature. Maintenance should be a small cost in the overall budget line of state and local governments. If serious jetty rehab is required, its likely because for many, many years, no/absolute minimum maintenance was done. Its not acceptable for state assets to be neglected. There's also the aesthetic value of jetties being treasured features of our S.A coast line. Jetties are not called piers, because they aren't piers - let the Vics call them that if they wish. The Robe jetty It also has potential value for professional fishing. If for any reason the current dock facilities are unsuitable, the jetty could be a serious resource for professional fishers.Please note that there is very little opportunity within the survey to attempt to impart the vital role jetties play in the social & economic fabric of regional communities. I hope the comments being left on this discussion page also find their way into the formation of the Strategic Plan.

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DPTI Community Relations > Rick Moore

31 Oct 2019

Hi Rick,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Craig Grantham

26 Oct 2019

People my age always used the jetties fishing crabbing swimming just a all around great thing to have in our town when your on the water

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DPTI Community Relations > Craig Grantham

31 Oct 2019

Hi Craig,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Margaret Stuart

26 Oct 2019

Port Augusta is eunique as it is the crossroad to NSEW and many people travel through our town. What is an eye sore is our fenced off old bridge. The old bridge needs repairs so that we can enjoy our health and wellbeing of walking, fishing off the old bridge which we all enjoyed residing in this town we need to have family activities and the old bridge reopening the old bridge will make us happy.

Margaret Stuart

26 Oct 2019

The city council needs to build a new jetty for our children and visitors in Port Augusta. The AEF will be here 2020 and the visitors have enjoyed the jetty during the weeks convention. The solution build a new jetty East side. Young people are saying we got no where to jump and are considering the bridge not safe.

Margaret Stuart

26 Oct 2019

The jetty played a significant role to myself as a young person residing in PA and is needed for the next generation, who have no activities to do help our community enjoy a much needed jetty.

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DPTI Community Relations > Margaret Stuart

31 Oct 2019

Hi Margaret,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards

Gary Rowbottom

24 Oct 2019

Port Augusta has suffered a significant blow to its collective community psyche with the condemning (after diligent engineering surveys) of all 3 of its major wooden marine infrastructure assets - The Great Western Bridge, the East Side (Mill) Jetty, the West Side Jetty, and the wharf or parts of it. The East Side (Mill) Jetty has been demolished, leaving only the first approx. 4 metre section possibly a contender now for the worlds shortest jetty - but still a reminder of what was. The other 3 are all barricaded off completely or in part by ugly wire panels and in the case of the Great Western Bridge an unsightly rope strung across the gulf to prevent boat travel beneath it. All this in clear view of all traffic on National Highway 1. This situation has become a festering sore on the community, and has sadly caused divisions within the community, descending into a blamestorming frenzy. These structures (or most at least) were gifted to the local council some years back by the then government, on the provision it was responsible for maintenance. A poisoned chalice of course as there is limited maintenance you can really do, the top deck timbers can be replaced on an as needs basis but the pylons, which in all cases is where the condemning reports largely identified, are really the determining life factor of the whole structure, replacing significant quantities of those practically amounts to building a new structure. And ultimately I suspect this is the same situation everywhere, and generally speaking the life of these assets seem to be somewhere around 100 years. Few councils can foist the cost of these replacements onto their ratepayers, and nowhere more is that true than Port Augusta. And I don't think it feasible that individual councils set aside funds each year to replace these things every 100 years. Some of this I have watched from afar as I have been working in Queensland for 2 years, and it has been sad to see this situation. I will be returning to live back Port Augusta soon and sincerely hope there can be a good outcome for this situation.

I do welcome this strategic plan. But it needs to have outcomes that sees these assets remaining for the benefits of the communities they are in - otherwise it is just another bunch of pretty reports. A statewide body setting up a system to assist in the maintenance of these assets is a great idea. I guess part of the answer is that individual councils do in fact set aside some funds each year to contribute to the replacements of these assets, but starting 80% or more through their life means that alone cannot help the current situation, though it would create a pool of money that could be aggregated to maintain/replace these assets as long as the timing for major work could be spread out enough. Without doubt there will need to be some rationalisation, communities may not be able to keep all the wooden marine structures they used to have.

There is some opportunity here to - to set up or support a business (could be Government controlled/regulated) to maintain/replace/repair these structures - for our entire state and potentially others. This could include a training aspect and perhaps this could be taken up by TafeSA in Port Augusta - I'd love to see TafeSA do more teaching of practical skills rather than concentrate on continually restructuring themselves as is their wont.

Our jetties, wharf were used for all the things all these structures were/are. Fishing, visual amenity, swimming, jetty jumping, launching zones for fireworks displays, photographic opportunities and just plain hanging about on or near them, sometimes they are used for various boating related functions (as was their main purpose in general when they were built). Like most in my generation, I served my initiation in jumping off our jetties, bridge and wharf, it is my hope that that option, (amongst all the other enrichment they bring to their communities), will be there for SA citizens for many generations to come, in my home of Port Augusta and all the other SA communities that have these assets.

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DPTI Community Relations > Gary Rowbottom

24 Oct 2019

Hi Gary,
Thank you for your comments which we have taken on board. We encourage you to fill in the survey alongside your comments here to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards

Gary Rowbottom > Gary Rowbottom

24 Oct 2019

Hi, did the survey too, sort of at least, near the end I accidentally pressed something on the keyboard and what I had done disappeared, don’t know if what I had done lodged or not, regardless I have no time to redo. If you can let me know if my survey did lodge, assuming all the responses are not just robo driven.

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DPTI Community Relations > Gary Rowbottom

31 Oct 2019

Hi Gary,
No worries. We will check to see if your survey responses came through.

K. Ballard

23 Oct 2019

It is a very sad state of affairs when one minute you have multiple sites suitable for crabbing and fishing...and the next minute they are all deemed unsafe, after inspection!

And fencing them off and saying that they are very expensive to repair just doesn't cut it!

Something has to be done!

Port Augusta had the old Great Western Bridge, which was the original highway road linking East and West Port Augusta, until the Joy Baluch bridge was built and opened in the early 1970's, which then became a great place for fishing and crabbing along its length, as well as a boardwalk and recreational area. Now it is closed and fenced off! And there was the old T jetty on the east side - now dismantled....and the other jetty on the west side - now fenced off, and the wharf on the east side - now in most part fenced off. All now deemed unsafe overnight.

This is a problem faced not only for Port Augusta, but all around South Australia. These jetties have a limited life, given the harsh conditions which they are subjected to in the sea water. We tend to take them for granted until something like an inspection shows how unsafe they can be.

No-one seems to have an answer to what the next step can be. The State Government is responsible for 33 jetties in South Australia. These include recreational, commercial and closed jetties.
There are a further 35 jetties which were divested to the local councils under long term lease agreements, which includes the requirement to maintain and repair these jetties to an acceptable standard.
Which sounded great on principle, but the reality is that the costs for the maintenance and repair for jetties can be astronomical to any council. And this is the sticking point for many councils - they simply do not have the finances to do this!

All they can do is fence them off. And we as South Australians miss out on something which many take for granted elsewhere!

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DPTI Community Relations > K. Ballard

24 Oct 2019

Good afternoon,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Debi Nicholls

23 Oct 2019

Our jetty is very important to me and all who live in Port Augusta plus those who visit.
It’s wonderful to see kids and their dads fishing off the jetty sir just taking a stroll to the end and catch up with people and back again.

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DPTI Community Relations > Debi Nicholls

24 Oct 2019

Hi Debi,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Bill Cole

23 Oct 2019

The ageing jetties dotted around the coastline of South Australia represent not only our history, but also important community assets that provide recreational facilities to both the local communities and visiting tourists. Those tourists provide an important economic boss to struggling small, and often isolated rural towns. Port Augusta for example, is 300 km. North of Adelaide. Situated at the top of the Spencer Gulf, its award winning foreshore is a mecca for tourists wanting to stop for a breather, especially those coming down from the Northern Territory. Unfortuantely the local council, like others in rural South Australia, have been unable to adequately maintain four key jetties. The first of these, the sole remaining jetty from the town's original European Settlement days, also known as The Mill Jetty, had to be demolished this year due to safety concerns. The same fate awaits the Westside jetty. The original Great Western Bridge is also closed to both foot and vehicle traffic and might also have to be demolished, whilst the centerpiece of the foreshore, the iconic Wharf is also under threat. The total cost of fixing / repairing / replacing these structures is in excess of an estimated $30,000,000. The only way in my view that is viable for the State Government, is to seek Federal funding.

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DPTI Community Relations > Bill Cole

24 Oct 2019

Hi Bill,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey and this discussion will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Jonas Woolford

19 Oct 2019

This SA Govt centralised approach and discrimination of rural/coastal residents has gone on for too long. The negligence has to stop and investment must be made in these communities. It is more than votes. There is no access to many services and infrastructure that metropolitan residents take for granted. It is not fair nor is it equitable. Many reading this including those compiling the results of this survey have no appreciation of not having access because they have never gone without so it is hard to comprehend. The town jetty is its spine, its backbone, everything stems from it. It is the link from land to ocean, the link from visitors and community to the soul of the town. The jetty has cultural significance and presence. Make sure the jetty is maintained and enhanced then invest in health and wellbeing services, education opportunities, transport services and communication all of which are considered fundamental rights in metropolitan areas.

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DPTI Community Relations > Jonas Woolford

23 Oct 2019

Hi Jonas,
Thank you for your comments. We have taken your concerns on-board regarding the issues facing regional communities. We encourage you to fill in the survey to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

John Sandercock

17 Oct 2019

I write as Deputy Chair of Ardrossan Progress Association, which owns & operates Ardrossan Caravan Park.
Our clientele is largely made up of recreational fishers and their families, who visit Ardrossan for the excellent fishing & crabbing.
The town jetty, which is within walking distance from the caravan park is the major attraction, and offers easy access to catch a fish or blue swimmer crab.
The jetty was handed back to the “Care & Control” local council many years ago, when the State Government abdicated responsibility – and has been largely ignored since then. It is now in desperate need of urgent maintenance.
In the Minister’s own words:
“Jetties are such an important piece of infrastructure for a local community, especially regional communities,”
“Jetties support recreational and commercial activities for locals, as well as attract tourists.
“It’s these activities and tourism benefits that provides an economic boost for regional communities”
Unless he is merely paying service, he already understands the important role our jetty plays.
In simple economic terms, without access to the Ardrossan jetty our local tourism industry would be decimated.
And, with no tourism industry, our local economy would be decimated.

John Sandercock

17 Oct 2019

I notice that your standard response to the comments left here is "we encourage you to fill out the survey".
Just letting you know that I have completed the survey, however it took me four attempts to get it to work!!
I contacted DPTI by phone to highlight the issue - twice - transferred to 3 different people - no one knew anything about an online jetty survey, let alone how to fix it !!
I doubt many people would have persevered as long as I did.
If you want meaningful engagement, your technology has to work!
Also, there is very little opportunity within the survey to attempt to impart the vital role jetties play in the social & economic fabric of regional communities. I hope the comments being left on this discussion page also find their way into the formation of the Strategic Plan.

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DPTI Community Relations > John Sandercock

23 Oct 2019

Hi John,
Thank you for sharing your concerns. If you would like to discuss the SA Jetties Strategic Plan the contact number is 1800 318 070.
We have encountered issues using the survey with Internet Explorer. We suggest using Firefox or Chrome and ensuring your computer or device is updated.
We agree on the vital role jetties play in the social & economic fabric of regional communities and confirm all feedback will support the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,

Alison Speirs

15 Oct 2019

Port Neill jetty is very important to our small town. It is great socially for people of all ages (especially in tourist season), good fishing all year round, adds character and history to our town, great relaxation to sit and look at the water or go for walks on the beach from, jetty jumping off, teaching young kids to fish off, great to snorkel around in Summer and see the different kinds of fish that hang around beneath it, good for kayaking around and vacswim use it for teaching swim lessons from in Summer too. How many reasons do you need? It is a very important part of life in Port Neill <3

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DPTI Community Relations > Alison Speirs

16 Oct 2019

Hi Alison,
Thank you for your comments. We encourage you to fill in the survey to help us better understand how the community use and value the State’s jetties. The outcomes of the survey will inform the development of the SA Jetties Strategic Plan.
Regards,